It was my old 50 inch TV, replaced by a new one

"CB" (jrcb)
07/17/2020 at 20:43 • Filed to: gretel

It was much easier than transporting it in the Fiesta. Hopefully it doesn’t break like the last one!

DISCUSSION (23)

PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120 > CB
07/17/2020 at 20:53

How long did you get out of the old one and what brand was it?

CB > PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120
07/17/2020 at 20:58

It was a Sharp that lasted 14 months before the panel died.

PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120 > CB
07/17/2020 at 21:03

Ooo ff , that’s not what you’d expect when you buy a brand like sharp. Don’t forget, many major credit cards offer warranty extension, above a manufacturer’s warranty. If you still have the old one and your CC offers it ( assuming you paid via CC) , you could get it repaired.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > CB
07/17/2020 at 21:06

I've got a 52-in plasma that I paid $100 for.

cmill189 - sans Volvo > CB
07/17/2020 at 21:10

Your photo look s familiar...

C hecks R archive...

Oh yes.

Kinja'd!!!

CB > PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120
07/17/2020 at 21:28

I tried to get it repaired, but they said they couldn't source a panel. This one was free because I bought the extended warranty.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > CB
07/17/2020 at 21:37

Am I showing my age to point out that we used to keep big ticket items like TV sets for at least 25-30 years?

PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120 > CB
07/17/2020 at 21:54

Free is good too, I guess.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
07/17/2020 at 22:03

Nope. I'm right with you. Maybe I'm just getting old, but so much stuff these days seems built like garbage.

facw > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
07/17/2020 at 22:20

I’d guess that’s far more than the average set lasted for.

Also to some extent the reason they kicked around longer was that they were more expensive, so more likely to be repaired, and less likely to be swapped out for something better on a whim. Hell, for some CRTs, just the fact that moving them was a pain might have contributed to keeping them longer.

CB > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
07/17/2020 at 22:25

Look man, it broke. I wish I could've kept it for that long.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > CB
07/17/2020 at 22:33

Oh, I apologize. I get it. I just meant that durable goods used to be “durable”... now we get shoddy quality and they expect us to buy new ones every couple of years I guess.

I’m still smarting over my original LG 65" plasma— I paid a mint for the damn thing. It was gorgeous, a breakthrough. One year warranty— and in the 55th week of ownership... “loud pop” and a smoky smell and that was it.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > BaconSandwich is tasty.
07/17/2020 at 22:36

Yeah, that was my point, which I was inarticulate in expressing.

I mean, years ago, standards didn’t roll over every couple of years either, but those big old CRTs were built like brick shickhouses and lasted for decades. Now? All solid state and they die in months. Go figger.

cmill189 - sans Volvo > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
07/17/2020 at 22:43

I think it might be luck of the draw. I still have a 55" Sony I bought in 2011. Paid many thousands for it...which I would never do again. It saw heavy use for 7 years and now it lives in the garage where it sees freezing and 100 degree temps all year. Who knows.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > cmill189 - sans Volvo
07/17/2020 at 23:17

Yeah, in researching it that LG series had FOUR very complex high voltage power supplies for the bias for the plasma cells. They were not very reliable. And, if you didn’t replace them all, you increased the risk of recurrence.

Factoring all that in? It didn’t make sense to put $1500 into a set that could just break again. But, to this day I kinda blame LG for a flawed design, which should have been recalled. As if.

Tripper > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
07/17/2020 at 23:18

Guessing his broke, but I agree and maybe I’m showing my age but things used to be made so they could be fixed now it’s “get a new one” for almost everything.

Even the manufacturers “fix” is often credit toward a new model.

On the flip, TVs are far less expensive than they were even 10-15 years ago. I bought my dad his first ever “big screen” at cost when I worked for circuit city. It was a 58” Panasonic plasma and I spent $1500 I think (something like $2800 retail). Circa 2005.

The partners at work all get TVs in their offices. I buy them 60” TVs for sub $700.

Tripper > PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120
07/17/2020 at 23:26

Samsung and sharp are the two I most frequently repair. Panels on sharps, and honestly everything on Samsung’s. I see a lot of super old Panasonic and Vizio .

I’ve seen bad “batches” from Sony. Like 5-10 in a row that are DOA. However if they do turn on they generally work a long time

JMordu becoming “savethemilanos” > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
07/17/2020 at 23:29

The other factor is that in the last 20 years we’ve gone from 4:3 Standard definition CRTs to 4k smart TVs , with stops along the way for 720p, 1080i , full HD, plasma, rear projection, flat CRTs, 3D, different types of LCD/LED , OLED, curved, etc. It’s like the B&W to color transition happens every couple years, at least according to marketers/specs on the box.

And the standards aren’t sitting still because they’ve got us used to buying bigger screens with better features for less money in just a few years. No one really needs a 4k TV, but it’s now the standard and pretty cheap, so the 8K OLEDs are coming so you always feel like you need to upgrade.

A 1975 Trinitron was comparably far more useful and full featured 30 years later than a 2010 is in 2020, as long as you added VHS, Cable, and finally DVD. A 2010 TV with the latest streaming device at best runs only 1/4 the resolution of the 2020 standard.

Sure build quality may have gone down, especially on the cheaper brands/models, but the pace of advancement has also shot way up, even if a lot of it is m a rketing BS.

There’s nothing actually wrong with my Dad’s 13/14 year old 70" Sony Rear Projection TV, and if lamps remain available there likely won’t be for decades to come, but why keep a 70" 1080p Rear Projection TV when an 80+” 8k LED can be had for less than half what the 70" cost new?

There’s also nothing wrong with the 90s era ~17" CRT that was left in my house by previous owners, but it’s considered so obsolete that you can’t even throw it away easily anymore, and I don’t have any devices that can connect to it anymore (RCA and Coax, who uses either this century?) anyway, so it’s essentially a paperweight.

It’s consumerism run amok and part of why the whole planet is screwed, but what can the individual do? I t’s not like there are easy repairs anymore, and we can’t stop Netflix et all sunsetting support for different smart TVs or streaming devices if we rely on their content.

PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120 > Tripper
07/17/2020 at 23:46

That's crazy, didn't know. How does Samsung keep their terrible quality issues out of the press/reviews?

MiniGTI - now with XJ6 > CB
07/18/2020 at 00:02

I’ve had my 42” SONY for almost 15 years. It’s not that great by current standards (terrible blacks) but good enough for me and no stupid smart TV features to go obselete. Hopefully since it’s made it this long it’ll be around a while longer.

Tripper > PyroHoltz f@h Oppo 261120
07/18/2020 at 07:58

I’m probably not a good byte of data. I’m just one dude and I do this sort of work mostly on the side.

I think also Samsung sells a shit ton more (total guess but it seems that way) so maybe because there are more out there, the number of broken ones is higher?

I’m big on aesthetics, so when I’m shopping I go for the brand that has the all of the current graphical standards, no “smart” functions and the smallest most eye pleasing bezel. For the least coin obviously.

I’ve got an LG now but would buy a TCL if in the market for another.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > SBA Thanks You For All The Fish
07/18/2020 at 13:20

This is called “The growth economy at work” Since it’s a myth in reality, the only way to continually increase spending is to lower durability, or engineer in timed failures eg: “planned obsolescence” (a 2GB Seagate external hard drive I own just died last week, it’s warranty expired June 30. There’s NO WAY that’s a coincidence.) At one point in time not everyone owned a TV, now that (pretty much) everyone does, the only way to continue selling TVs (or anything) at a rate that [makes investors happy] is to make sure they don’t last too long, since the technology evolution and adoption is too slow by itself to make new formats a viable method to increase sales, you’ve got to “give the consumer a little nudge” to make sure they replace their goods frequently enough.

Fuck Everything.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t
07/20/2020 at 20:30

I was working in “embedded software” in the TV space about 10 years ago... and those poor guys were just PRAYING that “3D TVs were the next new thing”.

I was thrilled that 3D was, in fact, NOT the next new have-to-have feature.

My plan is to stand pat on 4K everything. just try to stop me. Go on.